What has not been mentioned to this point is that one of the primary problems is that while some of the Arab countries leadership has no desire for war on behalf of the Palestinians, the masses in the Arab countries do. Israel occupies formerly Muslim lands, and that can not be allowed. This is the basis for the position of Hamas and other Islamic terror organizations that Israel must be wiped from the face of the earth. Since the collapse of Turkey following WWI, Arabs have been clamoring about governance. The inter-war years were times of great migrations into Palestine (Israel) by Jews from all over Europe. Jews had been present in 'Palestine' for all time, but between the wars, some of the diaspora were returning. Following the war, when Britain was ending it's 'mandate', Israel was formed. Arabs were never happy with Britian as an occupier, were now on fire because Israel existed.
It is interesting to note that while there has never been a nation of 'Palestine', the nation of Israel existed on that land before Islam existed. There will be no peace until the leadership in Islam sanctions it and enforces it. Until then, any peace is merely a temporary peace while Hamas and other terrorists rearm to try again.
You are correct. Notable across the Middle East is a disconnect between citizens and their governments, largely due to the fact that government funding and thus power stems from oil wealth and not taxes, with the exceptions of Turkey and Egypt, both of whom are US allies. Since their creation following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, many States have been viewed as illegitimate by their residents and neighbors alike. The natural state of the Sunni Middle East is being at least somewhat unified under a Caliph, which de facto formerly resided in Constantinople for centuries. Israel represents a potential unifying cause across the region.
Ironically, Israel's primary purpose so far has been to prevent the creation of such a united Caliphate. This current crisis will put Saudi Arabia and Iran's recent rapproachement to the test and demonstrate how much the Sunni-Shia quarrel has been put to rest, if at all.
Additionally, while ISIS may have been a result of either bad or intentional US foreign policy (depending on your take) the fact that it attracted so many fighters is a testament to the ideology's appeal. And since it's an idea, just like Hamas, it's exceedingly hard to kill. Safe to say we're going to see a lot more radical Islam moving forward.
In what the late Saddam Hussein once dubbed “the great Satan,” roughly two-thirds of the United States enlisted military corps is white . . . The fat, bulbous U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin once confirmed in a 93-2 vote of the U.S. Senate, immediately embarked on a whirlwind media tour of duty, telling the pseudo-secular sycophants in the state-controlled tabloid press and state-controlled television talk show circuit about how the U.S. Army is full of bad racist white men.
Senior Defense Department leaders celebrating yet another Pride Month at the Pentagon sounding the alarm about the rising number of state laws they say target the LGBTQ+ community, warned the trend is hurting the feelings of the armed forces . . . “LGBTQ plus and other diverse communities are under attack, just because they are different. Hate for hate’s sake,” said Gil Cisneros, the Pentagon’s undersecretary for personnel and readiness, who also serves as DoD’s chief diversity and inclusion officer.
And now the U.S. Army is doing ads begging for more young white males? What happened?
Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Newsome could be cheated into the Oval Office by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo diversity brigades going door-to-door looking to impress American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition, the invasion at the Southern border is going full tilt, and the drugs are flowing in like never before.
Get ready for it . . . the fat old devil worshipping fags on Capitol Hill, on Wall Street, in Whitehall, and in Brussels are in no shape to fight a war themselves, and most Americans are armed to the teeth with their own guns . . . NATO hates heterosexual white men . . . they said so themselves . . .
Really appreciate that comparison. As regards the outcome, you, like me, are part of the ‘silencED majority’. 95% of our congress are warmongers and we can be assured 95% of the public are not - and that probably extends to all people in this world. But psychopathic and narcissistic personality types are ones brazen enough to do what’s necessary to climb the greasy pole of power. And that’s the problem. Narcissists not only don’t back down, they are hyper-sensitive to criticism real or perceived (in this case perusing a diplomatic solution is perceived as being weak - a fatal attribute for a leader). It appears to me that none of the players involved - the ones with the power to make a positive difference - have the mental health capacity to do it. We are captives to the egos of maniacs.
Inflated egos and detachment from reality are a vicious combination. And you're spot on that our leaders don't have the mental fortitude to do the right thing. What's holding them back is public opinion. While the American public is largely against more wars right now, what happens when there's a terrorist attack (false flag or real) inside the country?
I'd really prefer to be optimistic but, especially with a critical election coming up and an economy that's flashing red all over the place, a war would be a very convenient distraction right now.
Ugh I agree - and if necessary I wouldn’t put it past them to orchestrate a false flag so they get what they want (sigh). It could be down to the lesser of two evils - a serious financial crisis setting bankrupting bombs throughout our domestic economy putting a hold on outright war - I know money printing will be the bandaid, but that can’t hold back the inevitable forever. The US goes home to lick its wounds while the rest of world carries on without us? Or do we dive headfirst into war to ‘give the boys a job’? Blessed are those young men with dual citizenship.
The good news, I guess, is that we're bankrupt, but that's the bad news too. Eventually the US will have to give up its empire and stay home, which is what we should be doing. I don't think it'll happen until we've suffered some serious pain, though. My son's got dual citizenship (and is a child) which should hopefully help keep him out of harm's way, and I'm too old to draft. Most men I know have no problem with the concept of defending their homeland but have wised up to these unwinnable wars abroad. If I were in my 20's in the US I'd be looking for a way out since fighting for this current version of the US is a non-starter
Exactly! I have 4 boys in their 20s who have US and Irish citizenship. They’ve never lived in the US. Even so I would not have them fight in other people’s unnecessary wars and I’d defend the right of anyone to similarly object. Long before this I’ve said it should be a condition for a POTUS to have served (even if they never see battle which would be unlikely with our foreign policy) so they treat war with the respect and caution it deserves. Drives me nuts to listen to that pansy Lindsey Graham 😅
Lindsey Graham is a caricature of himself these days. He'd be hilarious if he weren't actually in charge of something. Quite telling he has no children of his own and would never be close to combat, so it's easy for him to talk war all day long.
Not a bad idea for POTUS to have served but I wouldn't make it a requirement. That's how you get a Caesar somewhere down the road, which is probably coming anyway, but the longer the better. To be fair, Eisenhower and JFK had both seen more than their share of war and wanted little more to do with it.
Ilhan Omar (D-MN) and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) have every right to say what they like about Israel and the genocide of Palestinians as elected members of the US House of Representatives; they never took an oath to serve Israel . . .
I voted for Ron Desantis (R-FL) to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel.
The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Congressman Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia . . .
Was he running for speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?
Following his ouster . . . McCarthy (R-CA) traveled abroad again, this time to England, and expressed his open contempt for the white Republicans who make up the majority of the GOP and praised Democrats for their diversity during a debate at Oxford in the wake of his ouster as House Speaker . . .
Is he now running for the Prime Minister of the U.K.?
Nevertheless, he is free to go on media tours bashing white people and lobbying for Israel, because he has now resigned from the US House of Representatives . . . I can only conclude that the collective RINO butthurt over former Speaker McCarthy is all about the Israelis who have hijacked the American deep state war machine.
It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.
Where is this trope that Iran funds and supports Hamas? It is now widely known that Hamas was a creation of Israel in an effort to divide the Palestinians and claim it has no negotiating partner, and it was funded by Qatar with the constant approval of Israel.
The shock came in 2006 or so when Hamas won in Gaza against the corrupt Fatah, which is now the "slave driver" for Israeli in the West Bank. And this is when Gaza became the biggest prison on earth, because US and Israel did not accept those election results. But still Israel needed Hamas as a way to divide Palestinian "political" class.
And until very recently, Hamas fought alongside ISIS in Syria against the Syrian Army, Hezbollah militias, Iranians, and Russians. SO why so casually throw in the thrope that Iran supports Hamas and funds it?
*Partially* funds is the key. Estimates usually suggest Iran provides around $100 million a year depending on the year. Example: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202201038619
You'll find a lot of conflicting info out there and a lot of propaganda, of course, but it's pretty clear that Hamas does indeed receive substantial support from Iran. Let me know if you find anything that directly contradicts that point.
OK, let's accept that. Also let's accept that somehow, Hamas, after being elected to run Gaza in 2006, managed to remain in power there, so it has to govern and provide administrative support to 2.3 million people. The 100 million provided by Iran to "Hamas" can as likely be funds provided to support the functioning of that open prison. EU provides much more:
Nobody accuses EU for funding "Hamas". But when Iran provides some much needed support, it is ominous. C'mmon here. Compared with the Gulf Sheikdoms, Iran is a beacon of democracy and diversity, with women getting educated, driving, working, etc. But hey, Iran is an evil theocracy run by mullahs, and everything they do is nefarious. KSA waging a 5 years war on poor Yemen, forgetaboutit.
While you have absolutely made no explicit bad connection and were very factual concerning Iran, Iran *partially* funding Hamas (Hamas = terrorism), implicitly comes that Iran funds terrorism.
I think when such claims are made, then a full breakdown of who funds Hamas should be made, i.e. Qatar funds Gaza/Hamas with Israeli blessing and encouragement, EU funds Gaza/Hamas, likely US funds(funded) Gaza/Hamas, and probably some others. Otherwise the beloved meme that Iran funds Hamas and in general terrorism will be perpetuated, wittingly or not, to the pleasure of quite a few - and anchoring is a powerful biasing process taking place in people's minds...
Jewish messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only strengthened the old Jewish narrative. These are the same ideals . . .
The transnational, transracial, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and are the daily diet in our schools, in our media, in our pop culture, in our universities and on our streets, have reduced our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are death cults that originated in the Middle East and are completely alien to Europe and its peoples.
Sometimes one wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often openly anti-religious movement side with a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left always claims to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism share a common ideological root: Judaism.
Don Rumsfeld was right to say, "Europe has shifted on its axis," the wrong side has won World War II, and it is becoming clearer by the day . . .
What has NATO done to defend Europe?
Absolutely nothing.
My enemies are not in Moscow, Damascus, Tehran, Riyadh or some ethereal Teutonic bogeyman, but in Washington, Brussels and Tel Aviv.
What has not been mentioned to this point is that one of the primary problems is that while some of the Arab countries leadership has no desire for war on behalf of the Palestinians, the masses in the Arab countries do. Israel occupies formerly Muslim lands, and that can not be allowed. This is the basis for the position of Hamas and other Islamic terror organizations that Israel must be wiped from the face of the earth. Since the collapse of Turkey following WWI, Arabs have been clamoring about governance. The inter-war years were times of great migrations into Palestine (Israel) by Jews from all over Europe. Jews had been present in 'Palestine' for all time, but between the wars, some of the diaspora were returning. Following the war, when Britain was ending it's 'mandate', Israel was formed. Arabs were never happy with Britian as an occupier, were now on fire because Israel existed.
It is interesting to note that while there has never been a nation of 'Palestine', the nation of Israel existed on that land before Islam existed. There will be no peace until the leadership in Islam sanctions it and enforces it. Until then, any peace is merely a temporary peace while Hamas and other terrorists rearm to try again.
You are correct. Notable across the Middle East is a disconnect between citizens and their governments, largely due to the fact that government funding and thus power stems from oil wealth and not taxes, with the exceptions of Turkey and Egypt, both of whom are US allies. Since their creation following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, many States have been viewed as illegitimate by their residents and neighbors alike. The natural state of the Sunni Middle East is being at least somewhat unified under a Caliph, which de facto formerly resided in Constantinople for centuries. Israel represents a potential unifying cause across the region.
Ironically, Israel's primary purpose so far has been to prevent the creation of such a united Caliphate. This current crisis will put Saudi Arabia and Iran's recent rapproachement to the test and demonstrate how much the Sunni-Shia quarrel has been put to rest, if at all.
Additionally, while ISIS may have been a result of either bad or intentional US foreign policy (depending on your take) the fact that it attracted so many fighters is a testament to the ideology's appeal. And since it's an idea, just like Hamas, it's exceedingly hard to kill. Safe to say we're going to see a lot more radical Islam moving forward.
In what the late Saddam Hussein once dubbed “the great Satan,” roughly two-thirds of the United States enlisted military corps is white . . . The fat, bulbous U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin once confirmed in a 93-2 vote of the U.S. Senate, immediately embarked on a whirlwind media tour of duty, telling the pseudo-secular sycophants in the state-controlled tabloid press and state-controlled television talk show circuit about how the U.S. Army is full of bad racist white men.
Senior Defense Department leaders celebrating yet another Pride Month at the Pentagon sounding the alarm about the rising number of state laws they say target the LGBTQ+ community, warned the trend is hurting the feelings of the armed forces . . . “LGBTQ plus and other diverse communities are under attack, just because they are different. Hate for hate’s sake,” said Gil Cisneros, the Pentagon’s undersecretary for personnel and readiness, who also serves as DoD’s chief diversity and inclusion officer.
And now the U.S. Army is doing ads begging for more young white males? What happened?
Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Newsome could be cheated into the Oval Office by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo diversity brigades going door-to-door looking to impress American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition, the invasion at the Southern border is going full tilt, and the drugs are flowing in like never before.
Get ready for it . . . the fat old devil worshipping fags on Capitol Hill, on Wall Street, in Whitehall, and in Brussels are in no shape to fight a war themselves, and most Americans are armed to the teeth with their own guns . . . NATO hates heterosexual white men . . . they said so themselves . . .
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/nato-an-anti-white-and-anti-family-institution
Really appreciate that comparison. As regards the outcome, you, like me, are part of the ‘silencED majority’. 95% of our congress are warmongers and we can be assured 95% of the public are not - and that probably extends to all people in this world. But psychopathic and narcissistic personality types are ones brazen enough to do what’s necessary to climb the greasy pole of power. And that’s the problem. Narcissists not only don’t back down, they are hyper-sensitive to criticism real or perceived (in this case perusing a diplomatic solution is perceived as being weak - a fatal attribute for a leader). It appears to me that none of the players involved - the ones with the power to make a positive difference - have the mental health capacity to do it. We are captives to the egos of maniacs.
Inflated egos and detachment from reality are a vicious combination. And you're spot on that our leaders don't have the mental fortitude to do the right thing. What's holding them back is public opinion. While the American public is largely against more wars right now, what happens when there's a terrorist attack (false flag or real) inside the country?
I'd really prefer to be optimistic but, especially with a critical election coming up and an economy that's flashing red all over the place, a war would be a very convenient distraction right now.
Ugh I agree - and if necessary I wouldn’t put it past them to orchestrate a false flag so they get what they want (sigh). It could be down to the lesser of two evils - a serious financial crisis setting bankrupting bombs throughout our domestic economy putting a hold on outright war - I know money printing will be the bandaid, but that can’t hold back the inevitable forever. The US goes home to lick its wounds while the rest of world carries on without us? Or do we dive headfirst into war to ‘give the boys a job’? Blessed are those young men with dual citizenship.
The good news, I guess, is that we're bankrupt, but that's the bad news too. Eventually the US will have to give up its empire and stay home, which is what we should be doing. I don't think it'll happen until we've suffered some serious pain, though. My son's got dual citizenship (and is a child) which should hopefully help keep him out of harm's way, and I'm too old to draft. Most men I know have no problem with the concept of defending their homeland but have wised up to these unwinnable wars abroad. If I were in my 20's in the US I'd be looking for a way out since fighting for this current version of the US is a non-starter
Exactly! I have 4 boys in their 20s who have US and Irish citizenship. They’ve never lived in the US. Even so I would not have them fight in other people’s unnecessary wars and I’d defend the right of anyone to similarly object. Long before this I’ve said it should be a condition for a POTUS to have served (even if they never see battle which would be unlikely with our foreign policy) so they treat war with the respect and caution it deserves. Drives me nuts to listen to that pansy Lindsey Graham 😅
Lindsey Graham is a caricature of himself these days. He'd be hilarious if he weren't actually in charge of something. Quite telling he has no children of his own and would never be close to combat, so it's easy for him to talk war all day long.
Not a bad idea for POTUS to have served but I wouldn't make it a requirement. That's how you get a Caesar somewhere down the road, which is probably coming anyway, but the longer the better. To be fair, Eisenhower and JFK had both seen more than their share of war and wanted little more to do with it.
Ilhan Omar (D-MN) and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) have every right to say what they like about Israel and the genocide of Palestinians as elected members of the US House of Representatives; they never took an oath to serve Israel . . .
I voted for Ron Desantis (R-FL) to be governor of Florida, not ambassador to Israel.
The recently ousted Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Congressman Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who took at least a dozen votes to get elected speaker, traveled to Israel immediately upon his election, declaring to the Israeli Knesset that the USA is steadfastly committed to supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia . . .
Was he running for speaker of the Israeli Knesset too?
Following his ouster . . . McCarthy (R-CA) traveled abroad again, this time to England, and expressed his open contempt for the white Republicans who make up the majority of the GOP and praised Democrats for their diversity during a debate at Oxford in the wake of his ouster as House Speaker . . .
Is he now running for the Prime Minister of the U.K.?
Nevertheless, he is free to go on media tours bashing white people and lobbying for Israel, because he has now resigned from the US House of Representatives . . . I can only conclude that the collective RINO butthurt over former Speaker McCarthy is all about the Israelis who have hijacked the American deep state war machine.
It has become so painfully obvious, especially where you have someone like Nikki Haley wagging her finger and shouting down Vivek Ramaswamy in a presidential debate on live national television when the questions of this Ukrainian war against Russia and any mention of Israel are concerned, that the United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/i/138320669/fight-your-own-wars-you-kikesucking-zionist-ass-whores
Where is this trope that Iran funds and supports Hamas? It is now widely known that Hamas was a creation of Israel in an effort to divide the Palestinians and claim it has no negotiating partner, and it was funded by Qatar with the constant approval of Israel.
The shock came in 2006 or so when Hamas won in Gaza against the corrupt Fatah, which is now the "slave driver" for Israeli in the West Bank. And this is when Gaza became the biggest prison on earth, because US and Israel did not accept those election results. But still Israel needed Hamas as a way to divide Palestinian "political" class.
And until very recently, Hamas fought alongside ISIS in Syria against the Syrian Army, Hezbollah militias, Iranians, and Russians. SO why so casually throw in the thrope that Iran supports Hamas and funds it?
*Partially* funds is the key. Estimates usually suggest Iran provides around $100 million a year depending on the year. Example: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202201038619
You'll find a lot of conflicting info out there and a lot of propaganda, of course, but it's pretty clear that Hamas does indeed receive substantial support from Iran. Let me know if you find anything that directly contradicts that point.
OK, let's accept that. Also let's accept that somehow, Hamas, after being elected to run Gaza in 2006, managed to remain in power there, so it has to govern and provide administrative support to 2.3 million people. The 100 million provided by Iran to "Hamas" can as likely be funds provided to support the functioning of that open prison. EU provides much more:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/12/eu-aid-palestinians-hamas-brussels-crisis
Nobody accuses EU for funding "Hamas". But when Iran provides some much needed support, it is ominous. C'mmon here. Compared with the Gulf Sheikdoms, Iran is a beacon of democracy and diversity, with women getting educated, driving, working, etc. But hey, Iran is an evil theocracy run by mullahs, and everything they do is nefarious. KSA waging a 5 years war on poor Yemen, forgetaboutit.
Well, you're right, and I agree with you. What point is in contention? Not sure I follow what you're getting at.
While you have absolutely made no explicit bad connection and were very factual concerning Iran, Iran *partially* funding Hamas (Hamas = terrorism), implicitly comes that Iran funds terrorism.
I think when such claims are made, then a full breakdown of who funds Hamas should be made, i.e. Qatar funds Gaza/Hamas with Israeli blessing and encouragement, EU funds Gaza/Hamas, likely US funds(funded) Gaza/Hamas, and probably some others. Otherwise the beloved meme that Iran funds Hamas and in general terrorism will be perpetuated, wittingly or not, to the pleasure of quite a few - and anchoring is a powerful biasing process taking place in people's minds...
Jewish messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only strengthened the old Jewish narrative. These are the same ideals . . .
The transnational, transracial, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and are the daily diet in our schools, in our media, in our pop culture, in our universities and on our streets, have reduced our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are death cults that originated in the Middle East and are completely alien to Europe and its peoples.
Sometimes one wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often openly anti-religious movement side with a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left always claims to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism share a common ideological root: Judaism.
Don Rumsfeld was right to say, "Europe has shifted on its axis," the wrong side has won World War II, and it is becoming clearer by the day . . .
What has NATO done to defend Europe?
Absolutely nothing.
My enemies are not in Moscow, Damascus, Tehran, Riyadh or some ethereal Teutonic bogeyman, but in Washington, Brussels and Tel Aviv.
https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire